he's gone outside of the normal processes to effect the change that's necessary. and i think, you you know, don't want to put too much on the first few hours or days of a pope, give him time to get into it. cutting through the kuria of the roman catholic church is not an easy thing to do. >> where's the state department, where is the u.s. government? >> as much as those give lip service to reform and how much change they brag about they want to bring it doesn't come easy. it takes time, it takes work. this man, there's something about him that's different. and i really am hopeful and prayerfully so he brings that spirit that lanny is talking about but also the stick that's going to be necessary to get it done. >> let me come back to you somebody who was a catholic convert some 16 years ago. will this pope be an van gellizer. will he take the message of the bible outside around the world. pope benedict said he would. he started to. i think he tired up. will this pope pick up where benedict left off and bring it in a personal way to millions of people around the wor